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SOWNY » Does Anyone Remember This Toronto Broadcaster? » November 24, 2020 10:01 am

Lorne
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And here's an excerpt from one of her shows.

SOWNY » Does Anyone Remember This Toronto Broadcaster? » November 24, 2020 9:47 am

Lorne
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I don't remember her either, but I found the following info about her retirement in a 1986 Jim Bawden column that will be of interest.

Jim Bawden Toronto Star.Toronto Star; Toronto, Ont. [Toronto, Ont]22 Oct 1986: H1.

* Signing Off: Claire Olsen, CKVR's breezy Showbiz interviewer, says she's had it with talking. After almost 40 years in radio and TV she's retiring. For now anyway.

"I'm old enough!" she says with a laugh. "Maybe I shouldn't admit it. But I go back to Andrew Allan days on radio. Then there was CKEY for nine years starting in 1947. Ray And Ginger was the show." Olsen played Ginger, a pert housewife.

Her CKVR show was syndicated, a fair money-earner for the station. But a decision to move it to CITY-TV studios "would have meant too much of a hassle. Frankly, I really didn't like talking to people like Matt Dillon. With Rob Lowe, so beautiful, he resented having to turn off a football game on the TV to do our interview."

Her strangest interview? "Mel Gibson. The makeup girl was so excited at having to do him. But she didn't recognize this frail, rather short young man who was very, very nervous."

Olsen was roasted last night courtesy of friendly rival Brian Linehan who says "We've been together for 15 years on the road from London to Los Angeles." Olsen admits, "I've had a few offers. If one's attractive, who knows?"

SOWNY » It Happened Again - Another Major Mistake On Ashby's Oldies Show » November 23, 2020 2:28 pm

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the original hank wrote:

i heard the clip and there was no mistaking "the miracles". in my opinion, the person putting the show together (in this case, i'm guessing, it's not roger) should know the music inside and out... especially if they're using digital music files. these files are often mislabeled (artists... original hit versions... etc.). even music services, such as spotify, occasionally provide inaccurate versions (especially when it comes to re-recorded songs). 

You make a good point about how files can be mislabeled. Although it certainly shouldn't happen, I can see where the name of an artist who is well-known for a song could get put on a file that actually has a different version of the song. And unfortunately, ever since these mistakes started occurring I've thought that the music is probably being inserted into the show by someone who isn't that familiar with music from the oldies era. My guess (not having ever worked in radio) is that it's a low-level job, and that wouldn't help any either ... I can easily see where the person doing it may be a younger person who wouldn't be that likely to realize that a mistake like this has occurred. 

SOWNY » It Happened Again - Another Major Mistake On Ashby's Oldies Show » November 22, 2020 11:41 am

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What I also find strange about this is that the Miracles version is very obscure and long-forgotten now. I'd understand the situation better if someone who isn't familiar with oldies accidentally inserted a better-known version of an obscure song, but I'm amazed that it's the opposite that's happening here. I also see that the podcast version correctly shows the song played as being the Miracles version, which I would imagine is because of whatever software they're using to look after this. 

SOWNY » It Happened Again - Another Major Mistake On Ashby's Oldies Show » November 21, 2020 9:42 pm

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Mabley's was the other version that I thought of, since it also charted on CHUM (#20) and Billboard (#35). Here it is in case it's the one.


 

SOWNY » It Happened Again - Another Major Mistake On Ashby's Oldies Show » November 21, 2020 6:47 pm

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Sounds like someone might have inserted this version instead. It reached #33 on Billboard and #28 on CHUM, where it charted for a grand total of one week. 

SOWNY » The late Doug Riley- aka Dr. Music given lifetime achievement award » November 19, 2020 10:40 pm

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paterson1 wrote:

Try a Little Harder, good choice Lorne!  I bought Dr. Music's first album for that song and One More Mountain to Climb.  Try a Little Harder was not your regular top 40 song but CHUM gave it lots of airplay, don't even know if it charted at all.  You can really hear the amazing Dianne Brooks singing backup on that song.
That first album was fairly popular with Sun Goes By, Longtime Comin Home and One More Mountain to Climb all received quite a bit of airplay and I remember the album was in the top ten for a while at Sam the Record Man on Yonge.

Thanks very much. Sun Goes By was their only song that charted on CHUM, but I do recall that Try A Little Harder charted on CKFH. As you say, it was definitely not a typical top 40 song but maybe that's partly why I liked it so much ... I often liked songs that weren't major chart hits. Really creative sound.

SOWNY » The late Doug Riley- aka Dr. Music given lifetime achievement award » November 19, 2020 9:41 pm

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I like the other songs that have been posted here, but this was my favourite by them ... it was the first Dr. Music song I ever heard on the radio.

SOWNY » Where Do These Alternate Versions Of Hit Records Come From? » October 24, 2020 11:00 pm

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RadioActive wrote:

paterson1 wrote:

I think there might be a mix up on the two songs.  Lesley Gore did definitely have a hit in 1964 with  Look of Love which was written by Jeff Berry and Ellie Greenwich. This was the original version of the song.   
You may be confusing it with The Look of Love (similar title) but totally different song written by Burt Bacharach and Hal David which came out in 1967 from the James Bond movie Casino Royale.  This was a hit for Dusty Springfield, but is not the same song as Lesley Gore's Look of Love.

No I can assure you this was the Berry-Greenwich song and it was Lesley Gore. If you listen Sunday morning you'll hear it right off the top of the show - it's the first song he plays. I know the original instantly. This was definitely not it.
And by the way, there's yet another version of a song called The Look Of Love that was a huge hit. It was done by Sergio Mendes & Brazil 66. Another terrific tune.
I think Ashby should add a segment called "Same Title, Different Tune." There are a ton of oldies with the exact same name that are different songs. Might be an interesting listen.

The Mendes song was the one written by Bacharach/David, but there were a few other songs that were different but shared the same title.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Look_of_Love
 

SOWNY » Lawsuit Alleges Toxic Nightmare Exists Behind The Scenes At CRTC » October 20, 2020 6:07 pm

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Federal court dismisses appeal case by former CRTC commissioner over termination

Alexandra Posadzki Telecom reporter

Published October 20, 2020 

The Federal Court of Appeal has dismissed a case by former CRTC commissioner Raj Shoan over his termination from the regulator, characterizing his allegations of racial bias as a “new issue” that was not raised during his earlier application for judicial review.

Mr. Shoan, whose legal battles brought internal conflict at the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission into public view, was appealing his second termination from his post as Ontario regional commissioner, which occurred in 2017, less than a year after the federal cabinet dismissed him the first time. He was also seeking a declaration that cabinet should have investigated allegations of racism that he had raised while working at the commission.

Mr. Shoan had specifically requested, in a June 14, 2016, letter, that then-heritage minister Mélanie Joly investigate “racially charged conduct” at the CRTC, according to court documents. He alleges a colleague had referred to him as a “spoiled, rich brown kid" and made other racially insensitive comments.
Justice David Stratas dismissed the case on Monday, saying in reasons issued later that cabinet’s “alleged obligation to investigate racial bias” is a new issue that Mr. Shoan failed to raise during his initial application in the Federal Court.

“New issues should generally not be heard by a reviewing court,” Justice Stratas wrote. “We exercise our discretion against entertaining this new issue.”

Mr. Shoan said in an e-mail that he is “disappointed that the Court chose to characterize racial bias issues – which have been ever present in the tribunal record – as a ‘new’ issue.”

“I am exploring the options before me and will make a considered choice with respect to next steps in the coming days," Mr. Shoan added.

Mr. Shoan was appointed to the CRTC in 2013,

SOWNY » Where Do These Alternate Versions Of Hit Records Come From? » October 20, 2020 8:18 am

Lorne
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Yes, that's the album. It actually belonged to my sister ... I had tried doing a quick search to see if I could find it online, but I couldn't recall what the front cover looked like and I didn't feel like going through all the images that came up to see if I could find the right one. Appreciate you posting that.

SOWNY » Where Do These Alternate Versions Of Hit Records Come From? » October 20, 2020 6:56 am

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Great find ... I did wonder if the Gentrys version might have been played by another station in the area. It did make it onto a K-Tel album and so I know it from there, but I wasn't listening to CKOC yet when it was a hit there.

SOWNY » Where Do These Alternate Versions Of Hit Records Come From? » October 19, 2020 10:20 pm

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The Gentrys version of Cinnamon Girl charted first on Billboard and got to #52, vs. #55 for Neil Young's. However, according to the CHUM Chart Book, only Neil Young's version charted on CHUM where it reached #7. Still, based on both versions charting on Billboard it might be possible to get Ashby to play them together, especially given that they would both qualify as Cancon. 

SOWNY » 40 Iconic Songs That Were Banned From The Radio For Ridiculous Reasons » September 30, 2020 9:01 am

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Radiowiz wrote:

#37 Puff the magic Dragon was banned for radio play? WOW!  

Did CHUM ever go with that ban?
The song found it's way back on the radio YEARS later.

Seems like only yesterday (1991) when CHUM was doing their top 300 oldies countdown. 
I forget the CHUM jock's name, but it was priceless what he said. 
"OH MY GOD!! Puff the Magic Dragon IS NOT happy being at song number one OH one!!"

Sometimes I think that these things get overstated. Puff was a big hit on both CHUM (#5) and Billboard (#2) in 1963. I did a search to see when Agnew complained about the song, and found that it was in 1970. I remember hearing it on CHUM on my radio when I was growing up, and 1970 was the year that I got my first radio. I don't know if Agnew's comments had any significant impact on it being played in the US, but this was so long after it was a hit that I doubt they made much difference ... I can't imagine that most rock stations would have cared about how Agnew felt about it.

And on a side note, I remember being with my father when he had won something at a supermarket and the skill-testing question was the name of the US Vice-President ... I was following politics by the time that this happened, but had no idea and didn't even recognize his name when my father said it. After that I started to take notice of when I saw his name in the news, but I never got the feeling that he was of much relevance even in the US. 

SOWNY » Why Don't Country & Oldies Formats Really Work In Toronto? » September 23, 2020 7:31 pm

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RadioActive wrote:

Radio111 wrote:

I miss Bill Gable. What a talent!

He was a class act.

He sure was. I had the pleasure of meeting him at the CNE and had a very enjoyable conversation with him ... he was just as nice in person as he was on air. 

SOWNY » G98.7 FM about to change ownership hands » September 14, 2020 9:08 pm

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By Gilbert Ngabo
Toronto Star Staff Reporter
Mon., Sept. 14, 2020
Amid the imminent sale of Toronto’s only Black-owned commercial radio station, community members and politicians continue to demand that the new company that gets its licence be majority-Black owned.
https://outline.com/DYc67v

SOWNY » IT'S THE HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY OF CONFEDERATION . . . EVERYBODY SING » August 7, 2020 8:31 pm

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The Sugar Shoppe's version spent 7 weeks on the CHUM Chart and peaked at #20.

SOWNY » IT'S THE HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY OF CONFEDERATION . . . EVERYBODY SING » August 7, 2020 7:46 pm

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Fitz wrote:

I don't have the CHUM Chart book but I do have almost all of the charts from that era and I see that Lets Spend The Night did not chart but She hangs Out was only on the chart for two weeks I think. The single was a fast riser but by the third week, the B side had dropped off. 1967 was the year of Monkeemaina and if memory serves me correctly they might have outsold the Beatles that year despite Sgt Pepper. No Milk Today by Herman's Hermits was a better song IMHO than the A side Kind of Hush and it remained on the chart but did not make the top 67.

Yes, the book shows that She Hangs Out was only included on the chart for two weeks. It definitely didn't belong in the Top 67, but you may have hit upon the rationale. Really bizarre, though. 
 

SOWNY » IT'S THE HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY OF CONFEDERATION . . . EVERYBODY SING » August 7, 2020 2:57 pm

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Fitz wrote:

Interesting that on the CHUM 1967 year end chart. She Hangs Out by the Monkees received full billing along with the flip A Little Bit Me. In the USA Mike Nesmith's The Girl I Once Knew Somewhere was the flip and made it to number 39, not as quite as high as the A side. She Hangs Out was not released as a single in the US and "Somewhere" is the better song.

She Hangs Out is barely remembered now ( even in Canada) but the flip of Penny Lane certainly is and that song Strawberry Fields is not on the top 67 of 67. They also missed the flip of Ruby Tuesday (perhaps upset that the Stones were asked to perform it as Lets Spend Some Time Together on Sullivan) but Lulu's The Boat That I Row is there along with the A side at number 5.

I checked my CHUM Chart Book re those last two situations. It shows Strawberry Fields as having charted for 11 weeks (vs. 13 for Penny Lane), so yes, it should definitely have been included. But I had wondered if Let's Spend The Night might not have charted, perhaps due to its subject matter, and it isn't listed in the book at all. 

SOWNY » IT'S THE HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY OF CONFEDERATION . . . EVERYBODY SING » August 7, 2020 11:53 am

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RadioActive wrote:

It was the only time CHUM did something like that in all its "best of" charts, and indeed, it would have had to have been something as special and unusual as a celebration of the centennial. If you think about, this isn't really the type of song they normally would have played in that era. So I guess this was the only way to include it. 

I'm not so aware of what their year-end countdowns were like in the 1960s, but in the 1970s I remember that sometimes on these countdowns I'd hear them playing something that I hadn't heard them play since it had been a hit. That was sometimes because it was a novelty, but there were also times that it was because it was something that didn't really fit their format -- but that had been so big when it was a hit that they played it anyway. Considering that Canada reached #4 and charted for 11 weeks, I don't think it should have been that problematic for them to play it during the year-end countdown. However, the way they handled it would certainly go with your idea that they didn't want to do so.

SOWNY » IT'S THE HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY OF CONFEDERATION . . . EVERYBODY SING » August 7, 2020 9:26 am

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RadioActive wrote:

I remember this tune very well. And I also recall how it charted on CHUM. In its Top 67 of 1967, it wasn't exactly included in the list. Instead it earned the designation of something called "The Super Hit Award" - which I'm guessing was a way to avoid actually having to put this anomaly somewhere in the middle of the countdown.

I was too young to be aware of that at the time, but when I saw it via the internet I thought it was rather contrived. Ron Hall's CHUM Chart book includes his own calculations as to how songs would have ranked ... he uses peak position plus the number of weeks that the song spent at the peak position. His rankings are different from CHUM's, but for what it's worth he ranks Canada as being #79 for 1967. Given this, and the fact that CHUM wanted to include it in some way, I think it would have been better to give it the #67 position ... it wouldn't have been out of place there, and it would have fit well with the nature of the song and the year. 

SOWNY » IT'S THE HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY OF CONFEDERATION . . . EVERYBODY SING » August 7, 2020 7:59 am

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Kosmos Kagool wrote:

Bobby Gimby wrote Ca-na-da @ approx this time of year in '66.    The Young Canada Singers recorded it and took it to no. 4 on CHUM the following spring.     Anyone know if the Young Canada Singers stayed together or if they disbanded and if so, did any members gravitate to broadcasting or musical careers?   

Many years ago, a friend of mine told me that her sister had been part of a group of kids who sang with Gimby, but this was several years after 1967 (she would have been too young then to be involved). I did a search and found that there is a website about him at http://www.bobbygimby.com/ ... although it doesn't say much about his post-1967 performances with children, it does end with "he continued to perform with children across the country, whenever he could."
 

SOWNY » High school radio » August 5, 2020 10:17 pm

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It only used the school intercom system, but I was part of a radio station that a teacher had set up at my high school ... there's a brief description of it at http://www.woburnalumni.ca/cwciradio.html. (I'm not in the picture, which was probably taken the year before I became involved.)

SOWNY » The Week That No One’s Working In Toronto Talk Radio » August 4, 2020 3:50 pm

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RadioActive wrote:

Unless a lot of people called in sick, who agreed to let every single regular take time off in the exact same week? I can't recall a non-Christmas time period in Toronto radio when that ever happened.   

Brings to mind the saying "Go big or go home" ... apparently they decided to go with the latter. But this is one of the most popular weeks of the year for people to take off in general, with it being in the middle of summer and it only requiring people to use four vacation days instead of five. There were three other people who I would sometimes cover for where I used to work, and it was quite common for at least two and sometimes all three to take this week off since I was able to mostly put my own work aside and cover for them. And this year there's the added aspect of the easing of covid restrictions. So while on the one hand I wouldn't have expected them to allow so many regulars to be off at the same time either, I think it's also nice for the regulars that they were willing to do this. 

SOWNY » CHUM's "Batman" Jingles & Dave Mickie's Lost 45 » August 3, 2020 11:38 pm

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RadioActive wrote:

Whatever happened to the Tote Family anyway? I can't say I ever heard of them 

Members of the group formed a new group called Seadog, and it was under this name that they recorded for MUCH ... more info is available at https://canpopencyclopedia.home.blog/s/.
 

SOWNY » WECK's Ridiculous Billboard Ad Strains Credibility In Buffalo » July 29, 2020 4:17 pm

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Dale Patterson wrote:

RA has been a superb moderator. He has brought SOWNY to a new level. My thanks to IG for reviving the board at its lowest point then choosing RA as a replacement, giving him a chance to shine. Craig Smith is looking down and smiling. 

Completely agree. Not only is he a worthy successor to those two moderators, but also the one who started this forum. https://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons3/smile.png

 

SOWNY » Mick Jagger, still alive at 77 today! » July 27, 2020 10:33 am

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RadioActive wrote:

With apologies to Lorne, the admin of the terrific Oldies Music Board, I just had to steal this from there. 

Thanks for the kind words, RA. When the board that had been at oldiesmusic.com was being shut down (along with the rest of the site), it was suggested that I set up a new one using Boardhost to take its place. My experience with this board definitely helped me in that regard, and it's worked out quite well. 

SOWNY » Disc Jockeys Who Became Recording Stars » July 13, 2020 1:38 pm

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Les Crane's recording of Desiderata reached #8 on Billboard in 1971. And Al Boliska's The Ballad Of A Dying Cowboy got to #18 on CHUM in 1960.
 

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