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SOWNY » Leading With Their "CHIN": A Question About Call Letters » October 22, 2020 12:45 pm

RadioAaron
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RadioActive wrote:

But I think the point is that this is, indeed, a unique situation and in most cases, a "new" station should have new call signs. Leave it to the government to come up with a system like this.    

I think it comes down to there not really being a clear and consistent system that accounts for all possibilities, and everyone involved kind of just wings it. Scott referenced the mess that is CBC's calls - and to this day as they launch and modify transmitters they're inconsistent with them. But alas, you'll never hear call-letters on any CBC station anyway which is a true indication of their importance.

SOWNY » Leading With Their "CHIN": A Question About Call Letters » October 22, 2020 11:21 am

RadioAaron
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fybush wrote:

As for ratings: nobody's writing anything about "CHIN" or "91.9" in a diary, because Toronto is a PPM meter market.

Numeris does run a simultaneous diary survey in PPM markets. It's not publicy published (you can find it if you know your way around one of the ratings software programs), but used for the audience profile information that the sales departments love.

For PPM, the CHIN stations don't encode anyway.
 

SOWNY » Leading With Their "CHIN": A Question About Call Letters » October 22, 2020 11:17 am

RadioAaron
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Well, that's all in theory since they're not rated, but the diary has you fill out a table to match the frequencies with what you've called a station in the listening log.

Thinking further, I'm not 100% sure CHIN-FM-1 would be the right call-letters even when it was a repeater, as that reads to me that it's repeating 100.7. It's a bit of a unique situation, and I can't think of a comparable one.

Would be great if Scott Fybush or someone who knows this stuff inside-out were to chime in.

Edit: And he did.

SOWNY » Leading With Their "CHIN": A Question About Call Letters » October 22, 2020 10:52 am

RadioAaron
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91.9's calls are CHIN-FM-1, which they got when they signed on as a repeater. In theory, they should have been swapped to originating calls when programming separated, but....

Programming is regulated by CRTC, call-letters by Industry Canada. Industry Canada doesn't track programming changes.

In the end, they are separate call-letters, and changing them to indicate originating station designation may just be good form, but not 100% required.

SOWNY » Jon Pole Says MyFM Wants More Stations As Firm Blows Its Own Horn » October 16, 2020 4:34 pm

RadioAaron
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rawkgurl wrote:

Radiowiz wrote:

RadioActive wrote:

Local works if it's done right. MyFM sounds like it's doing just that.    

Yup, and NO American network mornings lol
 

No American mornings on MY FM but perhaps on that sports turned alt rock in Peterborough? 

Yes; they're running the Woody Show.

SOWNY » Jon Pole Says MyFM Wants More Stations As Firm Blows Its Own Horn » October 16, 2020 9:24 am

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It's a neat business model: Starting radio stations mostly in markets that otherwise couldn't sustain one by centralizing and keeping costs low. I mean, lots of companies are moving in that direction, but his *started* that way, and it works. The stations on an individual basis have very few people at them, but they end up sounding local through newscasts, weather reports, community listings, and even commercial breaks.

I'm sure the talk-show is just a fun add-on for him; there's no way to wedge that into the business.

SOWNY » new owners for G-98.7 » October 15, 2020 10:57 am

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Radiowiz wrote:

radiokid wrote:

I think CRTC approval would also be required before this could be finalized or am I wrong here?

Nothing (much) is required if the format remains the same.

Yeah, should be a pretty clean approval.

SOWNY » New Owner Picked For G98.7 » October 14, 2020 6:15 pm

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I'm cautiously optimistic about this. Mr. Ray, as many 3rd language operators do, has experience with making radio work beyond the traditional ratings=revenues model. Getting advertising from businesses invested in the station's community can work. If this goes through, we'll most certainly hear paid-time specialty shows where the host is also the salesperson for that timeslot. That's not necessarily bad. 

SOWNY » New Owner Picked For G98.7 » October 14, 2020 6:00 pm

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Hansa wrote:

and an internal bid would have been possible had the possible bidders not had to choose between putting up money for the station or continuing their lawsuit for money they're owed. 

An internal bid was what I was hoping for. Was realistically the only way to keep it Black owned.

SOWNY » FLOW cancels Breakfast Club » October 13, 2020 8:23 pm

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Agreed, Harvey targets too old, and even then I don't think he'd work in a market where he's not already a known commodity. 
 

SOWNY » FLOW cancels Breakfast Club » October 13, 2020 8:06 am

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Two questions linger for me:

1. Did anyone at Stingray actually listen to the show before deciding to air it, or just the sizzle reel.

and/or

2. They signed up for this right before the pandemic. Did that cause the content of the show to change? I know they were known for big-name in-studio interviews.

SOWNY » FLOW cancels Breakfast Club » October 12, 2020 11:54 am

RadioAaron
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First delayed, now cancelled. FLOW 93.5 had ended the syndicated "Breakfast Club" morning show and returned Blake Carter and Peter Kash to morning drive.

That show has never attempted to change their content to make them syndication friendly in the US, nevermind Canada. And when you're fighting for ratings in NYC, why would you?

 

SOWNY » The Radio Dial In 1937 » October 12, 2020 11:08 am

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RadioActive wrote:

RadioAaron wrote:

There's a mistake on the first page. CFRC and CHAB have their cities reversed.

I think it's too late to correct it now! Although it's possible they were the correct cities back then and the call signs went elsewhere over the years. (Just like CFPL is now in London.) So it's hard to compare what was back then and what we know today.  

No, they definitely got things out of order. CFRC has never been used anywhere else.  

=13pxhttps://www.broadcasting-history.ca/listing_and_histories/radio/cfrc-am


 

SOWNY » The Radio Dial In 1937 » October 12, 2020 11:00 am

RadioAaron
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There's a mistake on the first page. CFRC and CHAB have their cities reversed.

Edit: in fact that whole section is off. CFRN is Calgary, and CHAB is Moosejaw.

Looks like the mistake started when they inserted CHAB in out of alphabetical sequence.

SOWNY » FCC In U.S. Ready To Go Whole Hog On AM Digital » October 7, 2020 5:38 pm

RadioAaron
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radiokid wrote:

The starting point is making HD the only type of radio available to buy... then the market can accept the move to all digital,  it has to be a plan and the switch needs to be all at once. A night light service should be offered after the switch to remind people that all digital has started. Again.. just like TV did in most markets outside Canada.   
 

It is waaaaay too late for that. Not a lot of people are buying "radios;" they're buying other things that happen to also have radios. The biggest, of course, being cars. It would take 20 years to get most of the non-hd car radios replaced.

I was looking for a good desktop radio with HD, and when I eventually found one that fit my needs, it ended up being shipped from Europe. Oh, and it doesn't even have AM, analog or digital. Which is fine, since the AM stations I care to listen to are all on FM sub-channels anyway. There are more FM subchannels available already that broadcasters don't know what to do with, making AM HD even more pointless.
 

SOWNY » FCC In U.S. Ready To Go Whole Hog On AM Digital » October 7, 2020 10:08 am

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andysradio wrote:

It will not work. It will just disenchant current listeners. Propagation will also not aid a digital station.I read a story about a AM station down there that flipped to all digital. Listeners thought it went off air and moved to listen to their FM repeater. They have since returned the AM station to pure analog

100%

Waste of time and effort. There's no demand for this.

SOWNY » Howard Stern Nears Deal With Sirius XM for Around $120 Million a Year » October 6, 2020 9:04 pm

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They went out of their way to point out that they have the data to back this decision up, but I'm still surprised.

He's really cut back on the hours and overall effort put into the show. Feels like it's just coasting.

SXM have obviously run out of potential new subscribers whose motivation is to listen to Stern, but they clearly know how many they'd lose if he were no longer there.
 

SOWNY » Outage at CTV Agincourt » October 5, 2020 5:41 pm

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...and to clarity, it's ALL Bell Media radio stations' streaming that's down, not just 1050.

SOWNY » Outage at CTV Agincourt » October 5, 2020 5:40 pm

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I *think* 1050 still routes through Richmond St, so in theory they could patch 1010 in. Might not be the highest priority right now, though.

SOWNY » Outage at CTV Agincourt » October 5, 2020 5:34 pm

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torontostan wrote:

Try tuning into CTV (any of them on the east coast) and you'll get black. Same thing with TSN, Discovery, CTV News Channel. Can someone try TSN 1050? Maybe they're simulcasting 1010?

I'd try 1050, but I'm not near an AM radio and all their radio streaming is down too.
 

SOWNY » Absence Aggravates Agar » October 5, 2020 5:06 pm

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Almost all Bell TV stations are out, radio streaming, and remote hosts. Major power outage at Agincourt. 

SOWNY » Why Don't Country & Oldies Formats Really Work In Toronto? » September 29, 2020 8:06 pm

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John D wrote:

I must admit.  After all my years in radio I have never heard the term, "hobbyists" radio stations.  No in fact i was referring to REAL radio stations just like we have in Toronto and I by the word diversity?  I travel mostly in Mississippi and Louisiana.  That's where you can hear all BLUES stations, Classic country, R&B, Cajun, too many to mention.  I realize it has a lot to do with the geography.  Also in the Carmel area of California and also that of the Sonoma valley.
 

Many of those would be what I call "hobby" stations. That doesn't mean they're not "real."

It's far easier to get a license in the US. There are plenty of older folks who worked in commercial radio who own commercial stations running a format they love. In many cases they're the only employee and have some part-timers and volunteers as staff. These are stations you'd never propose as a business case if you didn't love the music. Most of them are in smaller markets too, where you sell ads not on ratings, but on relationships. 

The generally make just enough money to keep the lights on, and that's all they want.

To me, that's a hobby station.
 

SOWNY » Why Don't Country & Oldies Formats Really Work In Toronto? » September 29, 2020 7:59 pm

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re: FLOW.

You can argue about music mixes and morning shows until you're blue in the face, but the absolute biggest impediment to their success it that their potential audience here does not listen to the radio. There's no real urban radio history in Toronto. Nobody's listening to the station their parents or big brother did, because there was no such thing. 

Why would an audience that's been neglected by radio suddenly use it?

Radio is still doing as well as it is based largely on momentum. There's no urban radio momentum in Toronto.

SOWNY » Why Don't Country & Oldies Formats Really Work In Toronto? » September 29, 2020 7:51 pm

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markow202 wrote:

Because people in Toronto arent diverse when it comes to music.  However, speaking of oldies how come Boom 973 is doing well and now Q?  I understand they dont play Johnny Cash and Bobby Vinton but its still old stuff.

The music is exactly old *enough*. It gets them into the upper-ends of 25-54, where you have much wider radio usage, without too much of the audience outside of the ad demos.

Then, the COVID situation helped. It's not that people are switching to Q en masse; but rather CHFI, CHUM, and company are losing tuning with offices being closed. Q and Boom come up the middle.
 

SOWNY » Another U.S. Morning Show Coming To A Toronto FM » September 29, 2020 7:39 pm

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Radiowiz wrote:

In all fairness. is 103.9 making any money? 

Maybe? I'm surprised. I posted here that I thought they'd shut it down once it became clear they couldn't use it to leverage a better signal for 103.5.

They've given it a new logo too.

Costs them nothing to run this show, so....why not?

SOWNY » Why Don't Country & Oldies Formats Really Work In Toronto? » September 23, 2020 7:52 pm

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Fitz wrote:

RadioAaron wrote:

John D wrote:

I would still like to hear an Americana radio station in Toronto.  I've been told it wouldn't work by someone  I really respect.  However; I still think it would.  It's why I love many U.S. markets when I travel.  It's the diversity they have.  Us?  Not so much.

I mean, I guess it depends on what you mean by "work." Under a ratings = revenues commercial model - absolutely not. 

There are a couple factors that lead to more diversity in American radio. For one, way more licenses per market, which allows big groups to experiment, and tiny groups to land what amounts to hobby stations.

The other is their public radio, which operates in clusters of smaller ownership groups, funded more directly by listeners than by government.

Any Americana station is operated either by a commercial radio hobbyist, or as part of a local public radio, NPR affiliated entity. We have neither here.
 

By "hobby" stations do you mean those really low power ones that are legal but I would presume have a very limited range ?
 

For the most part, yes. But in recent years, I'd also count better signals that hobbyists can suddenly afford. WEBR Buffalo for example. 
 

SOWNY » Why Don't Country & Oldies Formats Really Work In Toronto? » September 23, 2020 7:46 pm

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Radiowiz wrote:

RadioAaron wrote:

Radiowiz wrote:

Strictly a guess: Bell media already studied the Toronto market and decided that Country music is not a wise choice for a format...I'm guessing this decision was made around the time when Ottawa's 93.9 went Country. 
Bell most likely saw that it's better to stop competing with Boom FM Ottawa, but Toronto has no Bell Media station they'd like to change.

 

At the time Bell changed 93.9 in Ottawa to Country, in Toronto they had CHUM-FM and had just taken over Virgin. There's no way that Bell even considered even thinking about maybe wondering about looking at Country for either.  

They were most likely doing an "across Ontario/Country" scan to see how many stations they can fit in for their National Country content, knowing that Toronto doesn't have a good enough fit & AM radio doesn't have logic.

No. They had no national Country strategy at the time.

SOWNY » Why Don't Country & Oldies Formats Really Work In Toronto? » September 23, 2020 7:42 pm

RadioAaron
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John D wrote:

I would still like to hear an Americana radio station in Toronto.  I've been told it wouldn't work by someone  I really respect.  However; I still think it would.  It's why I love many U.S. markets when I travel.  It's the diversity they have.  Us?  Not so much.

I mean, I guess it depends on what you mean by "work." Under a ratings = revenues commercial model - absolutely not. 

There are a couple factors that lead to more diversity in American radio. For one, way more licenses per market, which allows big groups to experiment, and tiny groups to land what amounts to hobby stations.

The other is their public radio, which operates in clusters of smaller ownership groups, funded more directly by listeners than by government.

Any Americana station is operated either by a commercial radio hobbyist, or as part of a local public radio, NPR affiliated entity. We have neither here.
 

SOWNY » GM Lorie Russell is leaving Jazz FM...the search is on for a new GM » September 23, 2020 7:32 pm

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Muffaraw Joe wrote:

Here is more on the story and my question is does this job interest you? Would you do it? If you would, why and if not why not?
 

Hard pass. Reporting to a board, as a small operation, is a nightmare. The job posting talks about increasing ratings -- when the board doesn't understand radio and your donating listeners resist any attempt at modernization? Not to mention ongoing dysfunction in the halls? No thanks. If Lorie couldn't, I'm not sure who can.
 

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