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Mon May 7 2:30 pm  #31


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

Was anyone actually talking to someone on their phone when it went off? I'm curious to know what happened. Did your conversation get cut off or was it just the noise sounding while you were still yakking? 

 

Mon May 7 3:18 pm  #32


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

RadioActive wrote:

Was anyone actually talking to someone on their phone

You are showing your age... people don't actually use their phone for talking
 

 

Mon May 7 4:32 pm  #33


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

betaylored wrote:

...and it won't matter because whatever the message of today's alert was, it was unintelligible.

B. I. N. G. O.
 


 
 

Mon May 7 4:42 pm  #34


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

Dial Twister wrote:

today's alert was, it was unintelligible.

How can a WRITTEN TEXT (after all, that IS what this thread is about) be "unintelligible"? Seriously, it was in both official languages and written concisely. 

https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32072752_10160278955270521_6525841779911032832_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=2a63c031a1023d57ca4d5889351862fa&oe=5B57A008

 

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Mon May 7 4:55 pm  #35


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

cGrant wrote:

RadioActive wrote:

Was anyone actually talking to someone on their phone

You are showing your age... people don't actually use their phone for talking
 

Quit trolling this board please. I talk on my phone all the time. I'm not 18-24 but god damn I'm not 50 either.

 

Mon May 7 5:03 pm  #36


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

Radiowiz wrote:

cGrant wrote:

RadioActive wrote:

Was anyone actually talking to someone on their phone

You are showing your age... people don't actually use their phone for talking
 

Quit trolling this board please. I talk on my phone all the time. I'm not 18-24 but god damn I'm not 50 either.

Perhaps, Madam, you failed to see the "laughing" emoji at the end of my post. That would indicate I was joking. (Perhaps, having to spell it out for you, ironically, proves my point, though) ---> here comes another emoji: 
 

 

Mon May 7 7:20 pm  #37


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

Dial Twister wrote:

betaylored wrote:

...and it won't matter because whatever the message of today's alert was, it was unintelligible.

B. I. N. G. O.
 

 
Along with the marble-mouthed robotic voice, do you think the shrill discordant alarm sound should be retired, and an equally attention getting new alarm created? The familiar repetitive squawking noise everyone is only too familiar with, is pretty easy for most to disregard. ;)

Also, anyone know if the hearing impaired were taken into consideration during this test?

 

Mon May 7 8:19 pm  #38


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

cGrant wrote:

Perhaps, Madam, you failed to see the "laughing" emoji at the end of my post. That would indicate I was joking. (Perhaps, having to spell it out for you, ironically, proves my point, though) ---> here comes another emoji: 
 

I'm a SIR and you are to address me as "Mr. Radio Wiz, sir" in the future.
You weren't funny btw. It was directly insulting. 

 

 

Mon May 7 8:25 pm  #39


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

Radiowiz wrote:

cGrant wrote:

Perhaps, Madam, you failed to see the "laughing" emoji at the end of my post. That would indicate I was joking. (Perhaps, having to spell it out for you, ironically, proves my point, though) ---> here comes another emoji: 
 

I'm a SIR and you are to address me as "Mr. Radio Wiz, sir" in the future.
You weren't funny btw. It was directly insulting. 

 

 
Ah, snowflake, I'm sorry. Offended your preciousness, I did. I never wrote I was funny: I wrote I was joking, as in a jest. If that insulted you, well, tough. Grow a pair.

(Again, ironically, your demeanor purely illustrates my point about age. Thanks for making it.)

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Mon May 7 10:36 pm  #40


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

cGrant wrote:

Radiowiz wrote:

cGrant wrote:

Perhaps, Madam, you failed to see the "laughing" emoji at the end of my post. That would indicate I was joking. (Perhaps, having to spell it out for you, ironically, proves my point, though) ---> here comes another emoji: 
 

I'm a SIR and you are to address me as "Mr. Radio Wiz, sir" in the future.
You weren't funny btw. It was directly insulting. 

 

 
Ah, snowflake, I'm sorry. Offended your preciousness, I did. I never wrote I was funny: I wrote I was joking, as in a jest. If that insulted you, well, tough. Grow a pair.

(Again, ironically, your demeanor purely illustrates my point about age. Thanks for making it.)

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You are not to call me snowfake. You are to call me SIR! DO YOU UNDERSTAND? 
You really shouldn't troll though. Shame.
I'm also younger than you think, but thanks for not calling me kid. 
 

 

Tue May 8 5:22 am  #41


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

Did anyone else who received the alert have it come through via their Weather Network App? Rather odd I think. What if I didn't have this app loaded, or be set to auto update? I tried to upload two screen captures but failed in doing so.

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Tue May 8 10:30 am  #42


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

DeepTracks wrote:

Did anyone else who received the alert have it come through via their Weather Network App? Rather odd I think. What if I didn't have this app loaded, or be set to auto update? I tried to upload two screen captures but failed in doing so.

With respect, you didn't actually "get" the Alert. Pelmorex, which operates The Weather Network, also operates the Alert Ready system.  They have always distributed the warnings via their weather app as a courtesy. As you had it already loaded on your phone, you received the warning. Now, had you also received it via the Cell Broadcast system, then you would have received the actual warning. It has been discovered that, in addition to Quebec, portions of Ontario's cells also failed the test.
 

 

Tue May 8 12:47 pm  #43


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

Thanks. I may have received it via the Cell broadcast system, I don't know. At the time my phone was on 'hard' mute. A slide switch on the side of my iPhone 5 kills all sounds. Cheers!

 

Tue May 8 1:24 pm  #44


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

sitting in a barrie waiting room yesterday, got nothing on my phone, or the 6 people also waiting.

cbc news was on the tv.  they did a live remote with a bunch of millennials all staring at their phones in anticipation.  no sound, but the disappointment was palpable on that broadcast.  ironically, just after that report, the emergency notice appeared on the tv.... for over 5 minutes.
 

 

Tue May 8 9:40 pm  #45


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

splunge wrote:

ironically, just after that report, the emergency notice appeared on the tv.... for over 5 minutes.
 

When at home, just press the exit button on your remote. In a hospital or doctor's office, the TV out in the open might not have a remote or an exit option though.

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Wed May 9 7:08 pm  #46


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

Wednesday was the day for the tests in the rest of Canada. According to what I've read, just like in this province, almost all of them failed miserably when it came to cell phones. TV and radio seemed to work without a problem.

By the way, barring any real emergencies, the next scheduled test for Ontario comes on September 19th at 10:55 AM. Maybe they'll get it right by then.

     Thread Starter
 

Wed May 9 7:45 pm  #47


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

Was in Quebec for the test (we did a tour of the Gaspé Peninsula) and was somewhere around Trois Rivières at the time. Nothing whatsoever came through on my iPhone 5S. Friends in Montreal report one test success and one non. I have no idea whether iPhone 5S is too "old" for the alerts.

Didn't pay too much attention to radio while there - when the test was going on we were probably walking about the town...

On a radio note, visited CHNC FM in New Carlisle QC, where Réné Levesque worked (when it was AM) as a journalist before entering politics. Also noted an obviously unauthorized station on 87.9 while returning home in the car near Cornwall-Akwesasne, playing Aboriginal music (mostly drumming and vocals). Signal carried for quite awhile; I'd guess maybe 50-100 watts. The now-licenced CKON 97.3 started out there as a pirate many years ago.
 

 

Thu May 10 7:09 am  #48


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

I have an iPhone 5S, and as I noted in an earlier post, I had the alert come in via the installed Weather Network app.

My phone was muted at the time,via the side slide switch, so I don't know if there was any warning sound.

"cGrant" responded,quote- "With respect, you didn't actually "get" the Alert. Pelmorex, which operates The Weather Network, also operates the Alert Ready system.  They have always distributed the warnings via their weather app as a courtesy. As you had it already loaded on your phone, you received the warning. Now, had you also received it via the Cell Broadcast system, then you would have received the actual warning. It has been discovered that, in addition to Quebec, portions of Ontario's cells also failed the test."end quote.

t looks like in your case the test just outright failed.

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Mon May 14 11:09 am  #49


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

An Amber Alert went out over Toronto radio and TV stations just after the noon hour Monday, warning about a missing and possibly abducted child. It comes just days after the first test of the emergency system was mostly a complete bust on a majority of cell phones. Did anyone's cell get this one?

     Thread Starter
 

Mon May 14 11:33 am  #50


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

got it twice aprox 30 mins apart. second oen was in french

 

Mon May 14 11:37 am  #51


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

Got it. Though I think if I get amber alerts every time a child custody case goes awry hundreds of miles away I'll stop paying attention.

I didn't get the test while in Quebec on May 7. I use an iPhone 5s ...

 

Mon May 14 11:43 am  #52


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

Saul wrote:

I think if I get amber alerts every time a child custody case goes awry hundreds of miles away I'll stop paying attention.

EXACTLY! While I support Amber Alerts, there should be a different alerting tone vis-a-vie a difference between "breaking" news and "developing" news.

As an aside, Pelmorex must strongly believe in time travel, as this was a province-wide alert. I guess it's "possible" for an 8-year old kid to disappear in THUNDER BAY and minutes/seconds appear in Toronto?  Can they not localize more than this?
 

 

Mon May 14 12:45 pm  #53


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

Just got a second alert, that the child has been found. In the first case I had the phone set to vibrate, which it did, pinging maybe ten times but quite softly so that it wouldn't disturb anyone. For the second alert I had it to 'sound' (because I was expecting a call and was alone at the time) and I got the type of sound you hear on the radio. The "Waah, waah, waah" seemed to go on ad infinitum and was truly distracting.

I wonder if this will change user behaviour. Damned if I'll ever go out anywhere in public without setting it to vibrate; and in some cases turning it right off (because at some quieter events like classical concerts or talks you can hear a phone vibrate). The audio is way louder and more abrasive than any ring tone...
 

 

Mon May 14 12:47 pm  #54


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

one more alert , now amber alert cancelled, child found. soon another one in French. FFS imagine this at 2 am , 4 alerts within 3 hours for a child missing 700 km away

 

Mon May 14 1:44 pm  #55


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

At least 3 alerts today.  Once while driving - so I glanced over and the alert disappeared - vaporized before I could read it.  A 2nd alert about a missing kid, apparently nowhere near where I was.  Before I could read the entire alert, it vanished from my iphone.   3rd alert rescinded alerts #1 and 2.
Is this how it's going to be, bombarded by alerts for missing kids,  (in Thunder Bay) who might actually not be missing???  This is the old "cry wolf"  My spouse's iphone (same carrier) did not sound the alert even once.  

I suspect if I was in a meeting this would have disturbed everyone, because it was loud enough to wake the dead.

Someone noted that the alert came through if you have the weather network app on the phone.  I don't seem to.  I have The (US) Weather Channel (not related), The "Weather Office"  and Accuweather.  Anyone know if those triggered my phone's alarm 'cause I'll remove them ASAP.

What a great system eh????

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Mon May 14 2:53 pm  #56


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

tvguy wrote:

Someone noted that the alert came through if you have the weather network app on the phone.  I don't seem to.  I have The (US) Weather Channel (not related), The "Weather Office"  and Accuweather.  Anyone know if those triggered my phone's alarm 'cause I'll remove them ASAP.

No, none of those weather apps are owned by Pelmorex. Only Pelmorex owned The Weather Network piggybacks the alerts. Frankly, if you live in Canada, I don't see a need for foreign-generated apps as the data tends to be very delayed.

For those with older model phone that do not support Cell Broadcasts, consider this free app: https://peasi.com/products/
 

 

Mon May 14 2:54 pm  #57


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

To be honest I don't think the amber alerts should happen on phones. At least when they apply to custody disputes. If a child is truly abducted and the police have reason to believe alerts are relevant to a particular area, I'm more amenable. But these things are dealing with custody disputes - this was clear from the message that went out earlier today because it indicated who was wanted. I hope there's a strong backlash. In the meantime, when I am out my phone is on vibrate or off. If there is any way to remove such an option, I'm game, unless this system is made exclusively for public safety and targeted carefully on geographic basis. There's also the cry-wolf scenario - at some point people will have tuned out when it really matters. My opinion as to their applicability to radio and TV - there I don't mind amber alerts or whatever...

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Mon May 14 3:29 pm  #58


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

Let me be brutally blunt (why start now).....

The way some of the Illuminati on this board are reacting to this, proves, without a shadow of a doubt, what I've been writing here for a while. Some of you simply cannot adopt to progress. Period. The reason most here are no longer in the radio biz is the refusal to transform oneself from a single-station live jock, to a multi-station (cluster) live, voicetraking, social media embracing, multitasker type.

Look, if a simple cell phone vibration or text blows you up into a tight-fisted rage, then technology is not for you, ergo TODAY'S radio biz is not for you.

Yes, I agree, there should be, perhaps, different tones for a variety of emergency situations, and more geofencing of the cell alert, but that is in the fine-tuning.

 

Mon May 14 4:06 pm  #59


Re: Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th

I was in the break room at work when it happened. I could hear my co-workers cell phones all going off in their lockers. However, mine did not. My phone did not get the test alert last week, or today's Amber Alert. A co-worker was on her phone, I asked if she also got the alert, she did (but didn't read it, she thought it was another test).

Maybe my phone is just old.

 

Mon May 14 4:18 pm  #60


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Brad wrote:

mine did not. My phone did not get the test alert last week, or today's Amber Alert.Maybe my phone is just old.

As I wrote here multiple times, if you download The Weather Network app, the messages will piggyback there.  You can also download the Alertable app for free: https://peasi.com/products/

You can also check to see the status of your phone here: https://www.alertready.ca/wireless/