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August 2, 2018 11:00 pm  #1


Friday Flashback: The Oddities of TV

There are a lot of weird things that have appeared on TV over the years. Some were blink-and-you-missed-it type shows. Others had longer runs. And in one case, there’s a sitcom that got made – and was never even shown, despite spending all that money on the episodes.
 
Here’s a look at some of the oddities of the boob tube, including a few you probably never even knew existed.
 
The Sage Of Aquarius, CHCH
 
The hit “Hair” song about the dawning of the “Age of Aquarius” was sung by the Fifth Dimension. But this 1969 show featured the “Sage of Aquarius,” a guy named Prynce Nesbitt (supposedly named after his mother’s dog, so he didn’t exactly have the best start in life.) He’s described in various articles as an ‘early bohemian,’ and it appears he showed it in this archetypical late 60s series that aired on CHCH. You can only imagine the content. And you’ll have to. This thing is so obscure, it doesn’t even show up in a Google search.
 
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CHCH Shows The Same Movie At Multiple Times
 
With movies on every channel and entire cable networks devoted to 24-hour-a-day flicks, it’s hard to remember that CHCH made itself an international reputation by acquiring first run movies no one else could get the rights to. (“The Godfather,” for example, was first shown by the little Hamilton station that could.)
 
These days, you can see them at many times, whenever it’s convenient for you. But did you know that in the pre-cable era, CHCH used to offer something called “multiple screenings” of famous films so you could pick when you wanted to see them? They were way ahead of their time because the concept goes back to 1956!

 
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What Happens If You Want To Keep Your Zonk?
 
Believe it or not, I’ve always wondered about this. What happened to those people who won (if you can call that winning) a “Zonk” on the old Monty Hall hosted “Let’s Make A Deal” and actually wanted to keep the thing? They offered everything from old broken down tractors and clunky washing machines to real donkeys. And while you might think no one would ever want to take the booby prize home, some people did. Worse yet, under the rules, they had to be given what they won if they insisted on it.
 
So what did producers do then? The answer was revealed in a bizarre article in TV Guide back in March 1977.

 
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Lloyd Robertson: Weekend Newsman?
 
It seems like Lloyd Robertson was always on either CBC or CTV as the main attraction. But the Most Trusted Newsman in Canada didn’t start out that way. Instead, he was once consigned to just the weekends, as this ad proves. But talk about being ahead of your time. It’s from the late 60s and brands the news as “Computer Age TV.” Did they even have computers back in 1969? 

 
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Meanwhile, Lloyd Robertson or not, CBC and Canadian TV news ratings in general weren’t exactly huge in 1968. And yet they felt they could brag about what would be seen as abysmal numbers today in an ad. What I love about this is that they included two Buffalo channels in the comparison. 
 
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CBLT Once Had A Morning Show
 
Does anyone remember the days when CBLT tried to do a morning show, a la Canada AM or Breakfast Television? Whatever CBLT Morning was, it wasn’t a huge success. Notice who the co-host was: former AM 740 consumer talk show host Dale Goldhawk.

 
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CBC’s Line-up Before It Was All Canadian
 
Nowadays, it’s impossible to turn on the CBC and find anything that’s not made in Canada (or in some cases, Britain.) They’re mandated not to show any of those big bad American series that actually get ratings. But that wasn’t always the case, as these line-ups from 1971, 1972 and 1978 prove.

 
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Does Simsub Mean There Will Be More Canadian Shows Produced?
 
Actually, it turns out there were less, as time slots were gobbled up by same time-same date rules that allowed Canadian stations to have exclusivity by buying popular American shows brought to viewers here on cable.
 
There are some almost laughable references in this 1971 TV Guide editorial. First, the notion that simsub would mean cable would be forced to black out all U.S. shows coming into Canada. And the fact that the CRTC really believed this would help stimulate production of Canadian shows proves how misguided they were back then. But my favourite is the reference to the average cable bill coming in at just $5 a month – and that a hike was likely. (If only we knew then what most cable/sat subscribers know now!)

 
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Jackie Kennedy White House Tour
 
It was one of the most memorable specials in TV history – and it’s never been done again. Back in 1962, U.S. First Lady Jackie Kennedy took viewers on a first-ever TV tour of the White House, a show that aired on multiple networks. Just over a year later, there would be more coverage of the Kennedys, when Jackie’s husband was assassinated in Dallas.

 
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“The Young & The Restless” Global Catch Up
 
I have to admit I’ve never seen anything quite like this before. The network that owned the rights to “The Young & The Restless” soap opera lost them to Global. But the still new-ish network didn’t have permission to air it for another month and it was no longer available locally.
 
So they ran an ad telling viewers that they could keep up-to-date with the serialized storyline by watching a daily 4 PM special or phoning a recording that explained the latest plot twists. It was a unique idea but I wonder how many people took advantage of it.

 
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“Snip” Gets Cut Before Actually Airing
 
I always liked the late David Brenner as a comedian (his question about why TV’s Superman let bullets bounce off him but ducked when the bad guy flung the gun at him always made me laugh.) So he seemed a natural to get a show of his own, like contemporaries Freddie Prinze and Gabe Kaplan already had.
 
And he did.
 
But you never saw it.
 
It was called “Snip” and it was such a sure thing, that it was even showcased in the Fall Preview issue of TV Guide in Sept. 1975 as an NBC Thursday night show. So what happened? The comedy, about a hair dressing salon, featured an openly gay character and the network got skittish. So even though they made seven of them (but never edited the last two) it was shelved before a single episode aired.

 
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A bitter Brenner would often make jokes about it for the rest of his career, but he never did get another starring role in his own TV show.
 
 
“Beatles Night Out”
 
If you were around then, you probably remember the Beatles appearing on The Ed Sullivan Show. And you’ve likely seen the movies “A Hard Day’s Night” and “Help” by now. But what in the world ever happened to this show, which aired just once in North America in the summer of 1966? You’d think every Beatles artifact has been resurrected by now, given the endless interest in the Fab Four. But for some reason, this show has disappeared into the ether, although bits and pieces of it have turned up on YouTube over the years.

 
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I’d love to see the whole thing, but can’t find it anywhere.
 


 
Ann Rohmer Before CP24
 
She’s left the Toronto cable news station and come back more times than you can count. But Ann Rohmer wasn’t always there. Here’s a very young soon-to-be newswoman cutting her teeth with Peter Feniak on Global’s daily “That’s Life” back in the early 80s.

 
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The Red Barn
 
This has nothing to do with TV, per se, although this restaurant advertised on television and radio during its short existence. The Red Barn was in Toronto before McDonald’s, Burger King or any of the other fast food outlets that are so common today. And back then it was a big deal. But when the big guys moved in, the Barn doors were swiftly closed.   
 
I’ve run into people over the years who didn’t believe it existed. Here’s the proof it did.

 
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He’s Doing What On TV?
 
I saved what may be the strangest artifact for last. Back in the 50s, music shows were cheap to produce, looked impressive and didn’t need a lot of resources. CHCH in Hamilton, which as an independent may have produced more Canadian shows on a daily basis than even the CBC, had its fair share of them.
 
They also had a stable of sometimes crusty news people who brought the headlines to the Steel City. One of them was the great and irascible Jack Burghardt, who was famous for being somewhat cantankerous. So although this show is long lost to history, you can only wonder what this thing must have looked like. Check out what Jack was doing on this show titled, “Music For You” back in 1959.
 
Now THAT I’d pay to see!
 

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August 2, 2018 11:56 pm  #2


Re: Friday Flashback: The Oddities of TV

Brings back a couple of specific memories...

There was some kind of game show weekdays on CHCH called "Horoscope Fortune" I think.  If my young memory serves, It was basically a bingo game.  You got the cards in loaves of bread and you played for a particular week.

I also remember when we moved to the "suburbs" of Kitchener (The Stanley Park Area) in 1970.  I was still a young n' but I remember one of the perks of moving to a new subdivision was that all the houses were wired for cable TV.  My dad was happy because it only cost $5/month and, if you pay for the whole year in advance, you got cable for $50/year.  Mind you, that was for 10 channels, but they came in crystal clear on our black and white set. 
 

 

August 3, 2018 7:01 am  #3


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Here's two Red Barn ads and there is actually a tribute restaurant in Racine WI.








 

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August 3, 2018 5:03 pm  #4


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Love these Friday pieces, RA.  Brings back a lot of memories.

Can't recall ever eating there,  but had a Red Barn near me when I was a kid in Scarborough.

 

August 3, 2018 5:38 pm  #5


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Must agree with Media Observer, thank you RA.  Great memories, look forward to the post every Friday.  
As for my memories, I remember my parents driving by the Red Barn couple of times a month on the way to our Grand Parents house, and being greatly disappointed that they did not stop.
As for other soon to become mega fast food outlets, I remember my first ever Harvey's burger with dear old dad in Richmond Hill, and my first ever visit to McDonalds, one of their first locations in the area, and that again was in Richmond Hill.
Few years later we would jump in someones car during a 40 minute free class in high school in Newmarket and fly down the back roads for a Big Gack at the Golden Arches, eat on the way back and sometimes actually make it in time for the next class.
Oh the memories, and indigestion.
Long winded I know but thanks for triggering many great memories.
Have a great long weekend all.

 

August 3, 2018 7:14 pm  #6


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Tom Snyder interviewing David Brenner in 1976:
(4:00 in, David thought Snip was going to air in January...)








 

 

August 3, 2018 7:15 pm  #7


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It's amazing that with all the TV stuff above, it's the Red Barn that seems to be getting all the attention! 

I'm not sure if it's still there as it used to be, but there's a car/truck rental place at Ranee Ave. and Dufferin St. in North York, just before the Esso station and the entrance to Yorkdale that's shaped like a barn. That used to be a Red Barn and it was the first fast food joint I ever went to as a kid. I remember the burgers were great.

But then I never had any other fast food to compare it to, so perhaps it's just a trick of memory.

Here's something I just discovered in an old drawer, which proves two things:

1) Prices of their stuff were very cheap back then and
2) I really never do throw anything away.

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August 3, 2018 8:55 pm  #8


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Peter the K wrote:

There was some kind of game show weekdays on CHCH called "Horoscope Fortune" I think.  If my young memory serves, It was basically a bingo game.  You got the cards in loaves of bread and you played for a particular week.

 

CKCO-TV had a similar daily live morning show called "Horoscope Dollars". It was hosted by Johnny Walters. IT used to air in the late morning, before Big Al's Cartoons...  
 

 

August 3, 2018 10:01 pm  #9


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RadioActive wrote:

1) Prices of their stuff were very cheap back then and
2) I really never do throw anything away.

What was the minimum wage back then? 

 

August 4, 2018 5:51 am  #10


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RadioActive wrote:

It's amazing that with all the TV stuff above, it's the Red Barn that seems to be getting all the attention!

There's still an old Red Barn standing on Dundas St. E. in Mississauga between Dixie Rd. and the 427.
I remember it being a Red Barn hamburger joint as a kid, but it's been a Mr. Sub for decades.

 

August 4, 2018 6:43 am  #11


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The resolution on this isn't the greatest because I couldn't get TinyPic to upload it for me, but here's an article on the Sage.
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August 4, 2018 9:29 am  #12


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Great piece!  I was a college mate of Leslie Jones and had forgotten about her CBC stint...

Last edited by maybo (August 5, 2018 1:20 am)

 

August 4, 2018 8:46 pm  #13


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maybo wrote:

Great piece! I was a college mate of Leslie Jones and had forgotten about her CBC stint,,,

Didn't she work for CKEY at one point? I seem to remember her doing news there. 

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August 4, 2018 9:30 pm  #14


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Tq345 wrote:

RadioActive wrote:

It's amazing that with all the TV stuff above, it's the Red Barn that seems to be getting all the attention!

There's still an old Red Barn standing on Dundas St. E. in Mississauga between Dixie Rd. and the 427.
I remember it being a Red Barn hamburger joint as a kid, but it's been a Mr. Sub for decades.

Are you sure it's still a Mr. Sub? Mr. Sub has been sold to the MTY group. It is to my understanding that they intend to close several Mr sub locations, replacing them with food court locations and/or staying open, but merging with Countrystyle.
(Coffee time hinted that this is a good idea when they introduced new Coffee time locations with a Capt'n'sub location inside.)

I hope that Red barn is still standing...whatever it's being used for today.

 

August 5, 2018 1:19 am  #15


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RadioActive wrote:

maybo wrote:

Great piece! I was a college mate of Leslie Jones and had forgotten about her CBC stint,,,

Didn't she work for CKEY at one point? I seem to remember her doing news there. 

She did, RA.  I joined ‘EY in the winter of 1984 and she was there at the time.  Left shortly thereafter for the world of TV...
 

 

August 5, 2018 5:37 am  #16


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Radiowiz wrote:

Tq345 wrote:

RadioActive wrote:

It's amazing that with all the TV stuff above, it's the Red Barn that seems to be getting all the attention!

There's still an old Red Barn standing on Dundas St. E. in Mississauga between Dixie Rd. and the 427.
I remember it being a Red Barn hamburger joint as a kid, but it's been a Mr. Sub for decades.

Are you sure it's still a Mr. Sub? Mr. Sub has been sold to the MTY group. It is to my understanding that they intend to close several Mr sub locations, replacing them with food court locations and/or staying open, but merging with Countrystyle.
(Coffee time hinted that this is a good idea when they introduced new Coffee time locations with a Capt'n'sub location inside.)

I hope that Red barn is still standing...whatever it's being used for today.

I'm pretty sure it's still a Mr. Sub. It's been a while since I was by (weeks rather than months) but the old barn was still there then.  Also checked the website and it looks like it's still there. Apparently they open at 11 a.m. today if you're in the area and hankering for an assorted with extra mustard.
 

 

August 6, 2018 2:22 pm  #17


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I am one of the few people, I think, that remember the Paul Soles show Canada After Dark on CBC.  It was basically a 60 minute version of the 90 Minutes Live talk show, which ended the previous spring with the departure of host Peter Gzowski.  The new version lasted barely 3 months.

A different version of CBLT Morning aired around 1985 with hosts Naomi Loeb and Bill Cameron.  It was a victim of CBC budget cuts by the Mulroney government.  It was replaced by a test pattern as the Toronto station shortened its broadcast day to cope with the shortfall of money.

For many years, CHCH TV had a unique way of showing movies on Saturday night.  The films aired at 10:30 PM with a break at 11 PM for a 15 minute newscast usually anchored by Bill Knapp.  In spite of the delay, the movie usually ended by 1 AM, which was helpful for those who had difficulty staying up late.

 

August 9, 2018 10:19 am  #18


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Tq345 wrote:

Radiowiz wrote:

Tq345 wrote:

There's still an old Red Barn standing on Dundas St. E. in Mississauga between Dixie Rd. and the 427.
I remember it being a Red Barn hamburger joint as a kid, but it's been a Mr. Sub for decades.

Are you sure it's still a Mr. Sub? Mr. Sub has been sold to the MTY group. It is to my understanding that they intend to close several Mr sub locations, replacing them with food court locations and/or staying open, but merging with Countrystyle.
(Coffee time hinted that this is a good idea when they introduced new Coffee time locations with a Capt'n'sub location inside.)

I hope that Red barn is still standing...whatever it's being used for today.

I'm pretty sure it's still a Mr. Sub. It's been a while since I was by (weeks rather than months) but the old barn was still there then.  Also checked the website and it looks like it's still there. Apparently they open at 11 a.m. today if you're in the area and hankering for an assorted with extra mustard.
 

This image is 1 year old. I'm never near this area to do a drive-by to confirm.
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Last edited by DeepTracks (August 9, 2018 10:20 am)

 

August 9, 2018 12:39 pm  #19


Re: Friday Flashback: The Oddities of TV

Radiowiz wrote:

Tq345 wrote:

RadioActive wrote:

It's amazing that with all the TV stuff above, it's the Red Barn that seems to be getting all the attention!

There's still an old Red Barn standing on Dundas St. E. in Mississauga between Dixie Rd. and the 427.
I remember it being a Red Barn hamburger joint as a kid, but it's been a Mr. Sub for decades.

Are you sure it's still a Mr. Sub? Mr. Sub has been sold to the MTY group. It is to my understanding that they intend to close several Mr sub locations, replacing them with food court locations and/or staying open, but merging with Countrystyle.
(Coffee time hinted that this is a good idea when they introduced new Coffee time locations with a Capt'n'sub location inside.)

I hope that Red barn is still standing...whatever it's being used for today.

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